Interviewer Jake Chism got the chance to
catch up with Ted about the recent fan-hosted
“Gathering” festival, his upcoming title
Sinner, his future collaborative
efforts, and a host of other topics.
TCM: First, we’d like to thank
you for taking the time to answer some of our questions. We know
that you are an extremely busy man.
Ted Dekker: Thanks, Jake.
It’s always great to catch up with
you.
TCM: Well, we
have so much to ask, so we’re just going to dive right in.
The Gathering was such a great event and I was really blown away by
the whole experience. What are your reactions to The Gathering and
are there any plans for more in the future?
TD: To tell you the truth, the
enthusiasm for the event blew us all away. Over 1,500 people wanted
to attend, but we had to limit registration to 250 because the
building wasn’t big enough. You were there, so you know how
packed it was. But it was a great setting for us all to
connect—me with my fans in a way I don’t normally get
to, and then the fans with each other in a way that they
don’t normally get to. Even weeks after the event,
we’re hearing that from people who attended who say that the
day really wasn’t about my stories as much as it was a chance
to celebrate our shared Story together—the story of the Great
Romance. That’s what made it special. And people came,
literally, from all over the world to attend The Gathering.
It’s amazing. As far as next year, The Gathering 2009 is in
the works. It’s currently planned for Friday and Saturday,
June 5th and 6th in Nashville, TN. And, in Dekker style, you can
expect us to raise the ante in every way.
TCM: One of the
biggest announcements at The Gathering was the big reveal of two
more Lost Books scheduled for next year (Lunatic and Elyon). One of
your long time fans, Kaci Hill, has been chosen to co-author the
final two books with you. Do you mind telling us how that decision
came about and letting us know a little bit about Kaci?
TD: Well, Kaci will have to tell
you about herself, so you should interview her. As for how she was
“Chosen” so to speak, I put the word out to a small
list of writers that I was reaching out to the Circle to help me
complete the Circle Books, now called the Lost Books. When all six
are completed next year, their titles will spell CIRCLE across the
spines. Kaci always impressed me with her witty writing and when I
learned that she’d written several full-length novels while
still in high school I asked to see a sample. Now we have Lunatic
and Elyon, coming to you next Summer.
TCM: Sinner is
due out in September, and I feel that this is one of the most
important novels you have written to date. Can you give us a
glimpse into what the story is about? What was the most challenging
part of writing this particular story?
TD: Sinner is the story of our
country just around the corner when all that was once held sacred
in a free land where any man, woman or child could worship as they
pleased and say what they believed on any street corner is shredded
in name of tolerance. Sacrificed on the altar of hate crimes.
Smothered by laws. But, that is just the beginning. Sinner is also
about those who stand in defiance of this new kind of tyranny
against impossible odds. But more than both of those, the story I
wanted to tell in Sinner is Darcy’s journey. Billy’s
Journey. Long before I chose to use a political environment in
which to couch the story, I conceived of Darcy’s journey. The
climax with the 3,000 and Darcy, Black, Johnny and Billy are what
Sinner is really all about.
TCM: In Sinner we
see a future where tolerance runs rampant and preaching Jesus
Christ is illegal. Do you believe that such a future is in store
for us in the United States?
TD: Could be. Probably, if history
has taught us any lesson it’s that the ball always rolls
downhill. “Religious intolerance will not be accepted in the
future.” The fact that this notion seems like a good enough
idea to most of us only supports it.
TCM: What can you
tell us about Kiss? How many books do you plan on co-authoring with
other female writers?
TD: Kiss is the first of three
novels that I am co-authoring with Erin Healy, who for many years
has been one of my editors. Kiss, which releases this December by
the way, is the story of a woman who has lost her memory because of
a tragic accident, and learns that nothing in her life is as it
seems. She becomes obsessed with learning the truth, and along the
way discovers that she possesses a unique ability to piece the
puzzle together. Kiss will be followed up next December with
another novel being co-authored with Erin. Beyond that we will
see…
TCM: What about
Angel?
TD: The novel I conceived of as
“Angel” is no longer the same novel. Instead, I will be
publishing a novel tentatively titled “The Boneman’s
Daughters” with Hachette next April. The title could easily
change but I can’t tell you how excited I am about the story.
This is one of those tales that grabs you by the throat and
won’t let go, a deeply moving parable about the father-heart
of God written along the lines of Thr3e.
TCM: I have to
ask you about Green. At The Gathering you described Green as the
beginning and the end of The Circle Trilogy and “the mother
of all trips”. Can you give us any insight about what is in
store for us?
TD: No more than that. Sorry,
you’ll have to read the novel.
TCM: There has
been a trend within Christian fiction as of late to deal with the
darker side of humanity. This has met with mixed reviews. Some
believe it is necessary to display evil as evil and good as good.
Others feel that despite the fact that light wins out in the end,
the experience with dark materials is disturbing to their spirit on
a number of levels. As a Christian author who deals with these
matters in his work, are you mindful of these things as you write?
How do you strike a balance?
TD: I think this question is
primarily an American Christian issue, held up by a society that
has become obsessed with insulating itself from all things
uncomfortable, whether that be the death of our grandparents, or
the discussion of evil in a novel. Are funerals terrible events?
Should we avoid them? How about convalescent homes?
It’s absurd to write a story about the struggle between good
and evil without characterizing evil in a way that is consistent
with its true nature. Show me a church full of those who insulate
themselves from this struggle and I’ll show you a group of
people no more saved or holy or at peace than a church in Zambia,
Africa full of people who face death and terror every day. The
balance you refer to is better characterized as the right order.
How do you put things in their right
order?
TCM: When writing
about dark versus light, good versus evil, do you ever feel or
become more spiritually aware of attack from “principalities
and powers?”
TD: Probably not. I think the war
waged against us all is equally intense; it just takes different
forms. For those who insulate themselves from the struggle between
good and evil, the attack from the dark side comes in a hideous
thing called denial, which leads to blindness and often ends at the
bottom of a cliff.
TCM: There are
some who tout you as “The Christian Stephen King” or
“The Christian Dean Koontz.” What are your thoughts
about being compared to such prolific authors?
TD: First, I believe Dean Koontz
is a Christian. I don’t know about King. If my story telling
skills could be compared to either, I would be humbled. They have
connected with hundreds of millions with their stories because
their stories speak volumes.
TCM: You’ve
done the thriller genre. You’ve done the horror genre.
You’ve done the sci-fi/fantasy genre. Within the realm of
fiction, is there another genre you’re interested in trying
your hand at?
TD: Not really. I think I’m
settling down to Thrillers and Fantasy/Mysteries, both loaded with
romance J
TCM: You’ve
written one non-fiction work,
The Slumber of Christianity. Any
plans of trying your hand at non-fiction again?
TD: I’m actually working on
a book that recounts a wild trip I took through the Middle East in
search of the True Samaritan today. I met with Christianity’s
perceived enemies and tried to understand what Christ’s
teaching to love you neighbor as yourself really
meant.
TCM: Let’s
switch gears. What authors have been formative to your own faith
and beliefs?
TD:
Philip Yancey.
John Piper.
Dallas
Willard.
TCM: How does your faith influence your writing?
How does your writing influence your faith?
TD: All of life influences faith,
whether or not we are aware of it. Attending a religious service
can influence as much as going to a movie. When I write I think a
great deal about the themes I’m writing about. It makes me no
more or less worthy to write than you, because I am only a man who
has learned how to characterize the struggle that surrounds us all
through a thing called story that allows us to stand back and look
at that struggle with new eyes, bring it back into focus, and
engage once again. Things about spirituality, though… it
starts over every day, much like hunger.
TCM: Ted, you
have been so gracious in spending time with us. We know you are
extremely busy. We’ve even been told you’re about to
disappear for several months to write your next novel and will be
out of communication with the media world. We are very grateful for
the opportunity to ask you some questions. One final one, though.
Take stock of your life and how you have used God’s gift of
writing in your life. At the end of it all, when you finally meet
Elyon, what would you want him to say of you?
TD: This, my friends… This is
the one who has stolen my heart.
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